Bea Arthur didn't have a face for tv nor a voice for radio. Am I right?

From the "Maude is having an abortion" thread. No one believed Maude was pregnant, that would mean her husband gave her the high hard one at some time in the near past.

Nope!

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by Anonymousreply 88May 9, 2022 12:44 PM

No one believed she was pregnant because she was in her mid forties, dimwit.

by Anonymousreply 1May 7, 2022 3:49 PM

R1 The average age for women, in the USA, going through menopause is 51, dimwit.

by Anonymousreply 2May 7, 2022 3:56 PM

Stupid post by an asshole

by Anonymousreply 3May 7, 2022 4:02 PM

R3 is R1 and was exposed as a fool. He's used to it , though.

by Anonymousreply 4May 7, 2022 4:04 PM

Not R1, you cretin, which you’ll discover if you block me. And I’d like that!

by Anonymousreply 5May 7, 2022 4:07 PM

R5 I don't block anyone. Only cowards or liberals do such shit.

by Anonymousreply 6May 7, 2022 4:09 PM

Bea Arthur looked great in the later seasons of The Golden Girls once she lost some weight (and presumably had a little face work done). She also had a few 1930s-meets-1980s sequinned evening gowns that looked fantastic. When she and Blanche wore the same dress, Dorothy had the height to pull it off.

Her voice was so deep singing Mr Sandman and the fact her children were adopted made me wonder if was intersex or had some chromosomal abnormalities?

by Anonymousreply 7May 7, 2022 4:10 PM

Cretinous R6, you don’t get it (shocker). You made a nonsense allegation that you could easily verify by blocking by, which won’t block the other poster. And you refuse because you’re committed to being a jackass. Go worship your corrupt orange god.

by Anonymousreply 8May 7, 2022 4:13 PM

R7 C'mon! She never looked "great". I think you mean she didn't look as bad as she usually does.

Once again, I ask the question...How...did...she...ever get past the first read? Was it nepotism? Did she have family in Hollywood?

by Anonymousreply 9May 7, 2022 4:14 PM

R8 I never said you were lying. I believe you. I just don't block people. That's for cowards or woke liberals, FFS.

by Anonymousreply 10May 7, 2022 4:17 PM

Bea was a Marine truck driver during the war. She didn't do soft and dainty well.

by Anonymousreply 11May 7, 2022 4:18 PM

R10, I will speak slowly because you’re a Republican. You accused me of being another poster. Like all republicans, you will take pains to avoid learning the truth. If you would block me, you’d learn the truth. Sorry, I’m not good at communicating with toddlers.

by Anonymousreply 12May 7, 2022 4:20 PM

Every gay child should get a Bea Arthur soundboard for Christmas. It’s much better than a Speak n Spell!

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by Anonymousreply 14May 7, 2022 4:25 PM

R13 How dare you! Bea is a cow and has the bone structure to prove it!

by Anonymousreply 15May 7, 2022 4:27 PM

R12, This is becoming an exercise in stupidity. For the second time...I KNOW YOU'RE NOT THE SAME POSTER. I know R3 and R1 aren't the same clown! You're two different bozos. I get it. I admitted it.

However, you're aware of the ole Shakespearean adage about protesting too much, correct? 🙄

by Anonymousreply 16May 7, 2022 4:28 PM

She could have been considered “handsome” by someone desperate. The basic fact was that she was talented.

by Anonymousreply 17May 7, 2022 4:31 PM

R13 Tallulah Bankhead is my spirit animal. She spoke the truth. If I was her and met Arthur at an audition , I'd reach for the mop and bucket and tell her to clean up stall 2 in the "Ladies Room"

by Anonymousreply 18May 7, 2022 4:32 PM

Bea had a wonderful, unique timbre. Warm, earthy, sometimes raspy. She could go from whispering threateningly to lashing out loud, with an excellent control of volume.

It was never a girly or “attractive“ voice in the traditional sense, but you recognise her instantly.

by Anonymousreply 19May 7, 2022 4:33 PM

I feel like Bea was born too soon and started too late, and yet, was of her time. In the 70s she was shocking and therefore original and so she became a star. Nowadays people would assume she was MTF and she would blend in with Justin Vivian Bond at Joe’s Pub.

by Anonymousreply 20May 7, 2022 4:37 PM

"Bea had a wonderful, unique timbre"

Is that what they say? 😬 Sure and Eddie Deezen has a wonderful unique visage. 🙄

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by Anonymousreply 21May 7, 2022 4:43 PM

[quote]I feel like Bea was born too soon and started too late, and yet, was of her time. In the 70s she was shocking and therefore original and so she became a star.

Bea was the original Vera Charles against Angelea's Mame in 1965, so she wasn't completely unknown.

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by Anonymousreply 22May 7, 2022 4:48 PM

Wasn't Bea also in the OBC of Fiddler and an early cast of Threepenny Opera?

by Anonymousreply 23May 7, 2022 5:35 PM

Wasn't she in the original Fiddler, and replaced by Zero Mostel?

by Anonymousreply 24May 7, 2022 5:50 PM

She's an unconventional beauty. A man or woman with plain or average looks who can somehow attract someone who is very good looking without having to be ten times the freak between the sheets as a regular attractive person in order to make up for lack of good looks.

Also women who are trans or intersex don't get rendered infertile from an STD given to them by their superior in the marines who sexually assaulted them. You have to have a fully developed uterus in order for that to happen.

So that should dispel the rumors that she was born male or part male. And even if she were trans or intersex it shouldn't matter. This is Data Lounge not the Gender Police Force.

by Anonymousreply 26May 7, 2022 6:06 PM

Bea Arthur was a great comic actress; her deadpan delivery earned her TWO primetime Emmy awards for Best Actress in a Comedy.

She was the perfect foil to Archie Bunker, offering up social commentary from a perspective that was the opposite of Archie's.

A whole new audience got to enjoy her as Dorothy on GGs.

She was terrific!

by Anonymousreply 27May 7, 2022 6:16 PM

I loved her since the Maude days. She and Lauren Bacall were cut from the same cloth -- great voices and unconventional looks.

by Anonymousreply 28May 7, 2022 6:30 PM

^^ Please let me add Eve Arden to that post.

by Anonymousreply 29May 7, 2022 6:30 PM

Former model Lauren Bacall was unconventional looking?

by Anonymousreply 30May 7, 2022 6:33 PM

Lauren Bacall always looked high to me. I don't know if it was the drugs, alcohol or Bogart.

by Anonymousreply 31May 7, 2022 6:40 PM

[quote] Was it nepotism? Did she have family in Hollywood?

Trolls gotta troll.

Bea Arthur had her own show because the fucking president of CBS got about 10 minutes into the All In The Family episode she was guest starring in, called Norman Lear on a break and said, "Let's give her her own show." And they did.

by Anonymousreply 32May 7, 2022 6:41 PM

This was posted to the Bygone Broadway instagram account a few months ago. Bea in The Taming of the Shrew in 1948. She was beautiful.

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by Anonymousreply 34May 7, 2022 6:46 PM

I'm very doubtful the president of CBS would refer to Bea Arthur as a "girl."

by Anonymousreply 35May 7, 2022 6:53 PM

R35 He definitely would have referred to her as a girl. This was during the time that all powerful men referred to all women as girls.

by Anonymousreply 36May 7, 2022 10:14 PM

She had the build and the voice for the stage. I've never understood how she got hired for screen work. As someone up thread said, she looked the best of her entire life in the last seasons of GG. She was an extremely late bloomer.

by Anonymousreply 37May 7, 2022 10:23 PM

She had incredible comedic sensibility. In her later years she shone as the mean old babysitter hired to look after Dewey on Malcolm in the Middle. She warmed up to him, and wound up dying of a heart attack while dancing to Fernando. She was also fantastic as Larry's dead mother on Curb.

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by Anonymousreply 38May 7, 2022 10:35 PM

Bea was a woman who looked best with little to no make up.

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by Anonymousreply 39May 7, 2022 10:38 PM

She looks pretty great here. The title says 1988 but if you scroll down, it's labelled as 1986.

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by Anonymousreply 40May 7, 2022 10:39 PM

"A face for radio and voiced for silent pictures"

by Anonymousreply 41May 7, 2022 10:43 PM

[quote]Bea Arthur didn't have a face for tv nor a voice for radio. Am I right?

God’ll get you for that, OP.

by Anonymousreply 42May 7, 2022 10:45 PM

She had a beautiful speaking voice from the beginning. She actually could have got a lot of work in radio during its heyday..

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by Anonymousreply 43May 7, 2022 10:46 PM

Ugly woman, inside and out.

by Anonymousreply 44May 7, 2022 11:46 PM

r44 = Betty White's dog groomer.

by Anonymousreply 45May 7, 2022 11:50 PM

Funny R44, that's exactly what people say about your oozing cunt.

by Anonymousreply 46May 7, 2022 11:51 PM

I loved the way she dressed on GG. Feminine yet almost masculine in the cut and style. She carried it off fantastically. My grandma would have called her a "handsome" woman. She could crack up an audience with a simple look ,how many comedians can do that these days?

by Anonymousreply 47May 7, 2022 11:54 PM

With the right hair, makeup and wardrobe she could easily look like a normal (but tall) feminine woman.

And this did in fact happen several times on The Golden Girls. I just can't remember which specific episodes/seasons her had looking her absolute best.

by Anonymousreply 48May 8, 2022 2:43 AM

Can anyone believe that Mitch McConnell goes home and and fucks Elaine Chao?

by Anonymousreply 49May 8, 2022 2:49 AM

Doesn't she look better fresh faced?

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by Anonymousreply 51May 8, 2022 3:01 AM

What was Tallulah saying to her? She had no talent? She’s on there because of her bone structure?

by Anonymousreply 53May 8, 2022 3:06 AM

I know there are women who have gotten pregnant in their forties but Bea Arthur looked more like she was in her fifties when she was on Maude. Her unplanned pregnancy seemed rather implausible.

by Anonymousreply 54May 8, 2022 3:10 AM

Tallulah was feigning self deprecation - "My status and audience reception rests on these cheek bones alone" - while putting Bea in her place (supporting/featured player).

by Anonymousreply 55May 8, 2022 3:11 AM

Bea's voice was deep because she smoked like a chimney.

Fun fact: Betty White was the only Golden Girl who didn't smoke. Bea, Rue and Estelle all puffed away.

by Anonymousreply 56May 8, 2022 3:18 AM

R54 There was a Lifetime movie that was on over 20 years ago about an elderly woman finding out she was pregnant.

I don't know how old their characters were supposed to be but the actors playing the married couple looked elderly.

by Anonymousreply 57May 8, 2022 3:18 AM

Well Blanche nearly got pregnant in one episode of GG so anything is possible.

by Anonymousreply 58May 8, 2022 3:24 AM

I've never seen Love And Other Strangers, but I enjoyed the humor of this clip.

Who here saw the movie, and what did you think of it?

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by Anonymousreply 59May 8, 2022 3:30 AM

R51 they all did though. They all looked the worst in season 1 because of the heavy makeup. Betty was a pretty woman most of her life but would have looked so much better (and younger) had she a lighter touch with the makeup.

You go through phases in life: when you’re very young you were makeup to look older, then when you hit 35/40, you wear makeup to look younger, and then you get to another point (much older) where you have to go back to wearing light makeup or you’ll look like a fucking drag queen (or Dorothy Michaels).

by Anonymousreply 60May 8, 2022 3:31 AM

This was a geritol ad from 1971. All the women in the ad were 46 years old.

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by Anonymousreply 61May 8, 2022 4:35 AM

You're right OP. Maude would have been better if they had cast Farrah Fawcett in the lead role. Golden Girls would have been better if they had cast Joan Collins as Dorothy Zbornak.

Who cares if they can't deliver a deadpan line better than anyone else on the planet. They're pretty, right, and that trumps everything else.

You fucking idiot. Are you 12 years old?

by Anonymousreply 62May 8, 2022 4:38 AM

Wow r61 that really puts things in perspective. You would never guess those women were only in their forties. People looked so much older back then.

by Anonymousreply 63May 8, 2022 4:40 AM

Goodness, r61, how did the women feel about themselves in that ad?

by Anonymousreply 64May 8, 2022 4:42 AM

That's Staff Sergeant Bernice Frankel of the United States Marine Corps Women's Reserve to you, OP.

by Anonymousreply 65May 8, 2022 4:46 AM

I remember watching Maude in the early/mid ‘70s. I was very young, but the way my mum reacted to the show, I knew it was hitting some nerves. “Womens’ Lib” was a new concept, and looking back on it, Maude did it very well. She spoke of things many women were feeling but didn’t dare shout about. I’ll always love Bea for that!!

by Anonymousreply 66May 8, 2022 4:48 AM

She woukd have been great on radio.

OP is a fool.

by Anonymousreply 67May 8, 2022 7:56 AM

R26 You do not know that Bea was sexually assaulted in the Marines so stop saying it as if it’s fact. Are you also the Golden Girls loon who insists that Stan and Dorothy lost their first baby as a way of explaining why their oldest child Michael is only 23 years old, despite being born 40 years ago.

by Anonymousreply 68May 8, 2022 9:40 AM

Bea got VD whilst serving in the military.

by Anonymousreply 69May 8, 2022 9:55 AM

R69 Yes we all know that, but it doesn’t mean to say that she was sexually assaulted. She could have just had sex with a guy.

by Anonymousreply 70May 8, 2022 11:37 AM

There is only ONE kind of woman, R26, and that's the kind that have xx chromosomes. Those with xy chromosome are male. Drag is not womanhood. Trans "women" are men.

by Anonymousreply 71May 8, 2022 12:08 PM

Let's ignore the fact that Bea was Jewish and that's probably why she got the role of Maude from Jewish Norman Lear and the role of Dorothy from Jewish Susan Harris. Jews NEVER hire other Jews in Hollywood. lol ;-)

*note* Billy Macy, Estelle Getty, Herb Edelman, Scott Jacoby and many guest stars on both Maude and GG were also Jewish.

by Anonymousreply 73May 8, 2022 12:32 PM

Bea underwent such a transformation between Maude and GG. Lots of plastic surgery and the sudden appearance of a defined chin.

I still occasionally have to stop and think sometimes if it's the same person.

by Anonymousreply 74May 8, 2022 3:02 PM

Bea had an excellent facelift between Maude and GG, and lost a lot of weight. It did wonders for her appearance.

by Anonymousreply 75May 8, 2022 3:20 PM

r77 just watch GG. Bea looked much better on that show than she did on Maude.

by Anonymousreply 78May 8, 2022 3:41 PM

Bea Arthur (cousin Maude) was a great character on All in the Family, from Bea's first minute on screen. Maude & Archie going head to head was interesting.

It made sense that they wanted to use her more.

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by Anonymousreply 80May 8, 2022 6:09 PM

It's well-known that Bea was an alcoholic and I think she was drinking on set at the GG. However, IMO, it's not apparent in the final product (episodes of GG).

The late-life, active alcoholism makes me sad.

by Anonymousreply 81May 8, 2022 6:10 PM

[quote] I think she was drinking on set at the GG.

Drinking on set was very common in the 80s. Lots of people did it.

by Anonymousreply 82May 8, 2022 6:11 PM

Bea was not the happiest person in the world.

by Anonymousreply 83May 8, 2022 6:13 PM

I love that she told Rufus Wainwright: "I'm not your fucking grandmother."

by Anonymousreply 84May 8, 2022 6:32 PM

R54, I think Carroll O'Connor was 47 or so when he first played Archie Bunker but to me he looked mid to late 50s.

by Anonymousreply 85May 9, 2022 2:41 AM

When All In the Family started, Carroll O'Connor was 47 and Jean Stapleton was 48. This is a picture of them from Season 1. To modern eyes, you would never guess that those two were only in their forties.

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by Anonymousreply 86May 9, 2022 2:57 AM

Targeting R73 with space laser.

by Anonymousreply 87May 9, 2022 11:24 AM

Why R87? You're denying there's Jewish nepotism in Hollywood?

Btw, I'm immune to space lasers.

by Anonymousreply 88May 9, 2022 12:44 PM

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